I have noticed in recent times I dont recognise alot of people nowadays within the town. We have become a commuter town with virtually all industry gone save thorn lighting and tridonic who only employ a fraction of what they used to. We used to have some big names like black & decker and smart&brown, but there factories are demolished and now we have new build houses. I here a lot of southern accents and people commenting on local groups saying its really nice and quaint. God knows where they've come from because I've always found the place a tad rough. Most are coming for a better quality of life, selling their houses to get something much better because house prices are cheap. They usually are in northern mining towns. You can still get a 3bed semi for £70k or a new build for £200k. And if you've sold a shoe cupboard anywhere near london you could buy something in the affluent very old area of tudhoe village for a mere £700k.
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Even in our small town/ large village this has happened, I know a couple well who did this, moved from the London area and then their friends joined them after visiting an seeing the attraction. Can’t blame them I suppose as I would much rather live here than anywhere near London, also I suppose we have exported a large nr of young people down there to work.
Lons
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We live in a small village where there isn't excessive movement of residents though we are about to get another 50 house development with an option for more even though access is in a dubious place close to a bend on to the main A road. The fact that the village school is full and exiting facilities can't handle the extra families seems completely irrelevant. The properties will be too expensive for local young people to buy which I guess is the same as in most rural areas.
My neice lives in London and they have the typical shoebox house you mention which they put up for sale a couple of months ago and it sold within a week for £650k. Her partner got a transfer to Manchester and has started work already and they are in the process of buying a stunning 5 bed house in a nice area of Lancs for the same amount. I'm happy for them but it undelines what you said Wallace.
My neice lives in London and they have the typical shoebox house you mention which they put up for sale a couple of months ago and it sold within a week for £650k. Her partner got a transfer to Manchester and has started work already and they are in the process of buying a stunning 5 bed house in a nice area of Lancs for the same amount. I'm happy for them but it undelines what you said Wallace.
Trevanion
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In West Wales, I personally think it has gotten worse since "Working From Home" has become the norm after the Pandemic, why bother with a house in/just outside London so you can commute to an office every day when you can have a nice house in the countryside and work remotely? The issue with these people is that they are generally earning significantly more than anyone else in the locality they are moving to and so price locals out of houses. My new neighbour is an example, he earns £120,000 a year working for a large global company whilst working from home, where the average wage of Pembrokeshire residents is around the £30,000 mark. Fair play to these people being to earn such large amounts of money and an arguement could be made that Pembrokeshire residents should "get a better job and earn more", but someone still has to do the council work, hospitality, trades, etc... which earn significantly less and can't compete with people earning quintuple when it comes to purchasing a home.
It's always been an issue though with people moving to the area to retire and owning holiday homes that are visited a few times a year, but this has certainly been exacerbated since the Pandemic which was reflected in all house prices skyrocketing, £180,000 houses were jumping up to £280,000 houses at their peak in 2022, they have come down somewhat since as the market has quietened and since some people realised that living in the countryside isn't all sunshine and rainbows, you have to be quite a hardy soul to live here for 80% of the year with all the rain, fog, and incomprehensible aberrations that come out at night.
I can't complain too much as it's like biting the hand that feeds as in my line of work it's the retirees and second-homers that make up the lion's share of my output because local people will almost always put in UPVC doors and windows because they are significantly cheaper, and I can't blame them for that.
It's always been an issue though with people moving to the area to retire and owning holiday homes that are visited a few times a year, but this has certainly been exacerbated since the Pandemic which was reflected in all house prices skyrocketing, £180,000 houses were jumping up to £280,000 houses at their peak in 2022, they have come down somewhat since as the market has quietened and since some people realised that living in the countryside isn't all sunshine and rainbows, you have to be quite a hardy soul to live here for 80% of the year with all the rain, fog, and incomprehensible aberrations that come out at night.
I can't complain too much as it's like biting the hand that feeds as in my line of work it's the retirees and second-homers that make up the lion's share of my output because local people will almost always put in UPVC doors and windows because they are significantly cheaper, and I can't blame them for that.
I was looking at the historical local house prices and 20 years ago you could buy a house for £20k 
I remember when I bought my place I went to look at a picturesque little bungalow in the posh part, right next to the village green, picket fence the works. It was £70k, I opted for the bigger house which was less than half the price. The bungalow is now £500k
I remember when I bought my place I went to look at a picturesque little bungalow in the posh part, right next to the village green, picket fence the works. It was £70k, I opted for the bigger house which was less than half the price. The bungalow is now £500k
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When I was in my 20's I was very into sailing and was renting in London where I was training and bought a quite small fisherman's cottage right on the harbour in *********, which was cheap at the time (half the price of the first flat I bought in Shepherds Bush - which at that time was a bit rough, and I spent every weekend and holiday there getting paid to teach people to sail. These days the town is dead in winter, packed in summer and the fishing industry is pretty much just tourism. People moan that every house and apartment is now owned by 2nd homers or AirBNBers. But it was locals who sold them to the incomers for what are now inflated prices these days, so there is no real cause for complaint. It affects all pretty or desirable spots and in every case the locals have chosen to sell to incomers: no one forced this.
It's perhaps no bad thing that house prices are more equalised across the country, as it distributes wealth a little more fairly, though I do think house wealth is a bit illusory.
It's perhaps no bad thing that house prices are more equalised across the country, as it distributes wealth a little more fairly, though I do think house wealth is a bit illusory.
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Bloody southerners! Coming up ere annoying me whippet!
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For years when he was growing up, No.1 son (now cycling 220 miles from Manchester to London in a day) used to call the delightful city of Salisbury by the very derogatory name of 'Smalsbury'; small city, not much going on, quiet etc etc. For the last few years he's lived in Bermondsey and now Bromley and guess what? He and his partner can't wait to move to somewhere like Smalsbury, but within commuting distance of the City - Rob
This was done by norman cornish, the two men were best friends and were at D day together, the pub was the weardale which was a proper pub. Going in at 17 I was amazed by the farm scene which was stuck on the ceiling. The town had a dog racing track which burnt down. come to think of it lots of places burnt down, match stick factory, furniture factory, coop, church, pallet factory, detonator factory, rave.
Adrian I saw a news report recently where places were struggling to get staff because no one lived near enough to do the work in a restaurant. Locals were priced out of the housing and the commute wasnt cost effective. The owner said he was paying over the rate for the work.
I can do better than that, new development built on farm land and the site of ww1 airfield, £133k. 6miles away from a world heritage site durham cathedral. https://gleesonhomes.co.uk/developments/middlestone-meadows/
Slightly better quality https://thirteenhomes.co.uk/our-developments/cornish-park-spennymoor/
Or at the very bottom of the market a terraced steal workers/miners house for £27k https://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/67428563/
There are about 6 big developments within the town but no extra amenities.
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This is exactly what we have here. Lots of housing development and nothing else. The infrastructure is overloaded. Sewerage is at well beyond design capacity, roads broken up by big lorries, GP surgery not able to take on new people, broadband shambolic etc. Planning needs to include more than just houses. Down here they incorporate some social level housing but young people cannot get mortgages to afford it. They managed to build a retirement complex with ambulance access, where the access pinch point is too narrow for an ambulance or fire engine to get through.
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Carlisle - Rob